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Hi TTF

Well actually one of the projects the comunity does make money and people are falling over to plow money into it, but it is the original ways are not there.

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Some of you have read Lee's speech on Titanic II and are therfore excused. Sorry, I know it sounds like a rant. Maybe it is.

I worked at a privately-owned bank in Richmond for a while, right after Ballard had found the ship. For some reason, a lot of the ship-making loans from around Norfolk were made there. We went through three, I said three, Titanic II applications that year. The idea won't float - pun intended. We did a feasability study on the first one - then just kept it around, as the others wouldn't believe (we did retype the first page). The ship would need extensive alteration in order to comply with current health and safety regulations, including radar and sonar as well as certain things being required to be handled by computer (all the fire and safety systems, etc.), which was after the point in time I'm discussing, but are now required. Then there's the idea of making money off this thing - which is, after all, what bankers do.

Who would be the passengers on such a ship? At the moment, she is too small to be a money-making passenger ship, unless you charged exorbitant amounts of money - and for what? The "luxurious travel" of 1912 doesn't hold up today - at all. First of all, the quarters - most the first-class quarters shared bathrooms. So there's a major refit right there - and forget Third Class altogether.

OK, let's say we go ahead and make all the rooms the equivelant of First Class, with bathrooms. Now what are you going to have the passengers do? Please don't forget that the main pleasures were walking the decks, talking (excuse me, "social intercourse" ) and eating - they spent the entire evening, every day, eating! And changing clothes. Boy, did they change clothes.

Which means, as public spaces, we have a place to read books, a place to write letters, a place to walk around the ship or sit and have a bit of broth and biscuit, and two places to eat. Period. No cinema, no real bar, no golf, no shuffleboard, one - repeat one - swimming pool, inside, 1/4 Olympic length, and one squash court. That's it folks, them's the amenities!

So now you are going to ask people to spend thousands on one-way trips in this? Or cruises? And who, pray tell, will be the clients? Yes, the first year (if you're lucky) all the Titanic enthusiasts in the world will sign on - for a once-in-a-lifetime experience. This doesn't give much for the return-trip crowd a lot of modern cruises plan for. So who next? Who would want to sail on this thing?

At a dead minimum, at this point you need to spend at least half-to three-quarters what you needed originally to re-outfit her as a normal cruise ship. What's the point? Build a modern one immediately and be done with it - who needs to waste what little profit you would make - and in the cruise-ship buisness, trust me we are talking peanuts - to build this thing? Threre are not enough Titanic enthusiasts in the world to make this critter profitable.

It's dead in the water. Trust me.
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Sad to say, I think you are right, Lee...this thing is dead in the water...the cruise ship mentality and the short attention spans of modern people...and the lack of modern entertainments would make this plan about as flotable as the iceberg left Titanic. emoticon

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it would have been nice though.

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Hi TTf

Unfortunatly I do agree with you, Money is the bee all and end all of most things and as such Titanic II would not survive on any ballance sheet.

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yes at one point it does come to reality that titanic will never be ...again.

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Hi

Although I think with all the knowledge details deck plans and cabin information I do believe a good replica non floating would be a great idea. Lets face it , it would not cost no more than a lot of stupid things they build now and I know a few backers who would love to do it.

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I think the idea of a floating museum is a good one.

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Hi TTF

I lknow of three big money backers who may go for that n o worries but they are also anti salvors. Now that could prove a problem.

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quote:

Graham 01 wrote:

Hi TTF

I lknow of three big money backers who may go for that n o worries but they are also anti salvors. Now that could prove a problem.

Graham



hey that is a great idea.. and you are right they do build very stupid things these days.

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