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EBAY AUTOGRAPHS ? TAKEN FOR A RIDE OR NOT ? HELP !!!!


http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/discus/messages/5921/85909.html?1082732069

I would have written this topic here as more people use this forum - but did not know how to post the pic's.

Would be grateful for any advice..... It's a bit long and boring. Sorry. Just worried.

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Hi Miles

I am sorry to say but the Book was issued after Archies death. Unless he used electronic righting I am afraid it is definatly fake.

I would also be dubious about a seller who says that if the monmey gets lost he will still send the goods, Come on why, You could right to him in say a week and ask why the goods have not been sent.

I hope you did not loos out and all ends well

The Smith signiture is very dubious to me. But what does worrk me is the reply from THS.

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OK I have just phonned the bank to put a stop on the check !!!! The ebay seller said it was paid in today. The stop was put on at 4.30. I made the situation very clear to the bank. It takes 4 working days for a check to clear in the UK but I don't know about the U.S.A ???? Hence I have 4 days to stop it. I am worried thought. What a dick I am. Will the weekend days be included in the four days it takes for a bank check to clear or do they not count. The bank said they are not bankers days for the UK - so I wonder if I got there just in time. If they are not bankers days for the U.K then maybe it should not matter if it takes four days in the U.S for a check to clear.

Why did mrs Kaumada not be more clear. She must have meant it is logical that HE COULDNT have signed it, but I swear she wrote COULD. She did.

Anyway I think if the check was paid into a U.S account today and the weekend are not counted as bankers days in the UK & it takes four days for a check to clear then I should be ok. Even if they cancel it on Monday ( was told they would do it today but it was closing time )

Why dose this have to happen on the Friday ???
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Hi Miles

The bank would of informed you if the cheque was cleared for payment regardless what country you paid into. So if you have stopped the cheque at your bank and they have stopped it then payment cannot be made.

Regardless when the cheque arrives in the UK bank. If it has been paid it cannot be stopped. The bank cannot pay out on a stopped cheque or they are liable for the whole amount plus costs.

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Well he said he paid it in today. But it takes time to clear. I have stopped it this afternoon ( today Friday )... The bank tell me it takes four working days for a check to clear hence I should not include the weekend.
So that should mean I am ok. He so far has had 1 day ( friday ) to wait for it to clear
and the bank say you do not include Sat/Sunday so even if they cancel it on Monday - which they should not have, that will only be day 2 of the clearing day. They seem to think I will be ok. Banks are open on Sat but Saturday is not a working day & it takes four working days for the this to clear. As he paid it into today maybe they won't include today also. Hence I think I will be ok.
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So he paid it in today. It takes four working days to clear. The weekend is not included as clearing days as they are not working days. I'm ok... no ??? Sorry to go on but it's £535.... I have phonned the bank many times. They have done every thing. I just hope because i got them just before they closed they won't think - we'l do it on Monday...... But even if they did I should still be fine - so they say. I am so worried.
I need to chill.
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Miles

Honestly if the bank has taken your order to stop the cheque they know they have not paid it out and therfore they have stoped it. They will of course charged you for this around £20 usually

Dont worry you would of known if they could not stop it they would of told you there and then, they do the stop when you instruct them so they have it on computer that the cheque is stoped.

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http://www.freewebs.com/graham7760/index.htm
http://www.freewebs.com/hmsroyaloak/
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I must have fool written all over me. People always seem to single me out. He must have thought I was pretty stupid to think I would go along with his idea of sending U.S dollars in the post or travellers money as he called it (I imagine he meant travellers checks)... He wanted fast payment. This worried me not only about why so about the money safety issues but about the seller. Why would someone so professional ask for cash to be sent in the post. I doubled The bank advised against sending cash or Travellers checks as I would have had no record of where they went at the other end. Hence they said I could do what you call an international money mover. Which is where you can pay money directly from a UK bank to a US bank with no fuss and bother. Perfectly safe and He would have got full payment almost immediately. However he did not like that idea of direct contact with his bank !!!!

He says he is a world renowned Titanic authority. Yet he dose not know that this book could not have been signed by Gracie as he died before it came out !!! I think he is just a guy who sells autographs whom saw an opportunity to get rid of some dodgy stuff.

I wonder if ebay have a forum I can post on ?
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Also I can't understand THS. What did Mrs Kaumada mean - saying the book could logically have been signed ?!? Unless she meant couldnt... But she did write COULD !!!
And that made all the difference with me. She said she was an expert in hand writing and had written about the book in the Communtator and that the autograph looked real. Yetif she knew so much about the book surly THS would have known it was signed after he died and simply let me know.
Unless she was being dopy and just wrote logically could when she meant couldnt.

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ok miles ,

listen i have been there done that. promise..
first thing you need to do i take a deep breath and let it out slowly. trust the bank.
if they know that the check is to be stopped they will take care of it. honestly.

four working days htat means just that 4 working days. this doesnot include sat. being as it is not a 'working' day.

as for the item well i cannot imagine why they would try to pass it as a real one.
some people are like that though.

if i were you i would only bid on things after i have asked the seller all questions that i can think of and if i am really interested in the item,

so dont worry.it will be sorted. if you overdraw on your account the bank as long as they know will fix it as soon as the check is stopped. if you put a stopper on it today then it really depends on what tiem you put it on . if it was before noon then it should be taken care of by wed. if it was after noon then look for it to clear on thursday.
hope this helps you
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