1000 post WT Stead a great man https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/t702 Runboard| 1000 post WT Stead a great man en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 09:58:31 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 09:58:31 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12677,from=rss#post12677https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12677,from=rss#post12677Hi all On houdini did you know there was a link to titanic with him ? I am going to be real coy now and say I have to find it again but me and a researcher found it a long time ago and I wil have to dig it out Grahamnondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:49:30 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12676,from=rss#post12676https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12676,from=rss#post12676now that really depends on which way you are going when you die. i have never heard that saying but . it is rather an odd saying it definately sounds like something houdini would say. wills nondisclosed_email@example.com (wills)Wed, 21 Apr 2004 20:15:54 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12675,from=rss#post12675https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12675,from=rss#post12675Pr0obably and if he didn't he should have!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Lights)Wed, 21 Apr 2004 19:11:51 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12674,from=rss#post12674https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12674,from=rss#post12674Hi Titanica and Lights Didnt houdini say it as well Grahamnondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Wed, 21 Apr 2004 08:00:04 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12673,from=rss#post12673https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12673,from=rss#post12673Not sure, but I think it's some sort of saying in Christian Science, which was Lightoller's religion.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Lights)Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:29:11 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12672,from=rss#post12672https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12672,from=rss#post12672quote:Lights wrote: .... "death is the illusion"!... Hey, that is true. I like that!! any idea who said it first??? nondisclosed_email@example.com (Titanica)Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:20:19 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12671,from=rss#post12671https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12671,from=rss#post12671Hi Lights As you say my friend death is indeed a illusion. It is the start of a new begining. Grahamnondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Wed, 21 Apr 2004 07:14:43 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12670,from=rss#post12670https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12670,from=rss#post12670D'OH!!! Sorry for not posting in on THIS one! Congratters on your 1000th Graham! And very interesting info on Mr. Stead. I always thought he was quite the Renaissance Man...and a great humanitarian as well (BTW Graham, how odd that I should be coming round to his point of view after all this time). But if I have ever learnt one thing it is that "death is the illusion"! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Lights)Wed, 21 Apr 2004 05:12:36 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12669,from=rss#post12669https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12669,from=rss#post12669Hi Wills Would I suggest such a person :-), Although to be quite honest he would be easier for me than the others, I do not do a lot into the lives of passengers, just the ones that interest me in some way. Bt for you Wills I may just make a exception and choose one of your chosen. Grahamnondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:48:54 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12668,from=rss#post12668https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12668,from=rss#post12668how about isador and ida struass.? they were interesting ... maybe astor and madeline how about tw mccawley the gym instructer. p.s. it would have definately been obvioous i fi would havce said william mcmaster murdoch wouldnt it as a matter of fact i bet you were waiting for me to say that .. lol willsnondisclosed_email@example.com (wills)Sun, 18 Apr 2004 00:34:43 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12667,from=rss#post12667https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12667,from=rss#post12667Hi Wills Very true I will think about that one as well. Any ideas??? Grahamnondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Sat, 17 Apr 2004 08:40:23 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12666,from=rss#post12666https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12666,from=rss#post12666uhhuh i agree with you they do go up rather quickly dont they.... i am looking forward tothe 2000th post. or maybe post number 1500. that would be great because it is close to the amountof titanics victums... hey there is something to think about ... willsnondisclosed_email@example.com (wills)Fri, 16 Apr 2004 22:06:25 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12665,from=rss#post12665https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12665,from=rss#post12665hi Wills It will come sooner than you think I think, the way these counters go up so fast. Grahamnondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Fri, 16 Apr 2004 06:35:17 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12664,from=rss#post12664https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12664,from=rss#post12664ok then hurry up and get to the 2000th post . lol sorry i am not good with waiting.... will definately be looking forward to it though. willsnondisclosed_email@example.com (wills)Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:22:45 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12663,from=rss#post12663https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12663,from=rss#post12663Hi Wills and titanica Thank you for your kind words. I am sure I will think of something by then, It will be another pasanger I think Regards Grahamnondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Thu, 15 Apr 2004 14:36:34 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12662,from=rss#post12662https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12662,from=rss#post12662very good graham. and very much worth the little wate . congrats on the 1000th post buddy they have been fun reading and very educational as well. now what have you got planned for the 2000th post huh huh huh it is not too far off. willsnondisclosed_email@example.com (wills)Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:00:06 +0000 Re: 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12661,from=rss#post12661https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12661,from=rss#post12661Nice work graham, and congrats for the 1000's post!! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Titanica)Wed, 14 Apr 2004 13:25:47 +0000 1000 post WT Stead a great manhttps://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12660,from=rss#post12660https://btomdyerstitanicsitecommunity.runboard.com/p12660,from=rss#post12660Here it is the 1000 post so hope you all enjoy it. WILLIAM THOMAS STEAD (1849 - 1912) Stead, one of the most outstanding and influential of late Victorian figures, was born in the manse at Embleton, Northumberland. He then lived from 1849 until 1861 in the end house in Church Street Howdon. The house was demolished to make way for the Howdon tunnel. Stead was apprenticed in 1863 and spent some seven years in the counting-house of a wine and spirit merchant at 27 Broad Chare in Newcastle. In 1870, he began writing articles for the newly-founded Northern Echo in Darlington which were of such quality that he was made editor in April 1871 - without any previous journalistic experience! In those days, the northern provincial press was taken seriously by metropolitan opinion. The great Gladstone responded to Stead's fierce polemics about the Bulgarian atrocities in 1876 by remarking: 'It is a sincere regret to me that I cannot read more of the Echo, for to read the Echo is to dispense with the necessity of reading other papers. It is admirably got up in every way.' The first session of the united parliaments of Bulgaria and Eastern Roumelia passed a unanimous vote of thanks to the Echo for stirring European opinion. In 1873, Stead married Lucy Wilson of Howdon and in 1880 began his celebrated association with the Pall Mall Gazette in London. As its dynamic editor, he became a fearless and influential supporter of causes, as he pioneered what Matthew Arnold called 'the new journalism', which involved banner headlines, stylish graphics and interviews. Stead was a volcano of energy, writing letters at the rate of ten a day. He was directly responsible for the despatch of General Gordon to Khartoum and gained great notoriety in July 1885, when he purchased a child prostitute in order to expose a vile trade in a series of articles entitled 'The Maiden Tribute of Modern Babylon'. This led indirectly to prison for Stead (and the raising of the age of consent from 12 to 16). Stead was opposed to cant of all kinds: 'If all persons guilty of Oscar Wilde's offence were to be clapped in gaol,' he wrote, while editor of the Pall Mall Gazette, 'there would be a surprising exodus from Eton, Harrow, Rugby and Winchester to Pentonville and Holloway.' The book In Darkest England and the Way Out (1890) published as by William 'General' Booth, founder of the salvation Army, was actually ghost-written by Stead. Deciding to reform Chicago after a visit there in 1893, Stead wrote If Christ Came to Chicago. Running through all his schemes was a belief in man's duty to amend society - and to extend British sway. He liked to use the phrase 'God's Englishman'. Such was his enthusiasm that he sometimes turned up on both sides of a controversy, for example over limiting arms, yet expanding the British navy. He campaigned for international peace and was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1901. He wrote acceptable verses on the subject of war. Stead had been converted to spiritualism while still in Darlington, and it was against the advice of a clairvoyant that he set sail on the Titanic in 1912. Oddly enough, Stead had featured stories of liner disasters throughout his career, and one of his comments was;' This is exactly what might take place if liners are sent to sea short of boats'. He is pictured in the film A Night to Remember (1958) reading calmly. Walter Lord quotes a survivor as last seeing Stead while his fellow-passengers were scrambling for seats in the lifeboats, 'independent as ever... reading alone in the First Class smoking room... he looked as if he planned to stay there whatever happened.' He was last seen helping women and children to escape. The Daily Mirror in 1998 reprinted the entire eight pages for 18 April 1912. The front page reads: MR W.T. STEAD, THE FRIEND OF KINGS AND THE HATER OF INJUSTICE, WHO WAS ONE OF THE MANY HUNDREDS WHO PERISHED IN THE SINKING OF THE TITANIC. There is a plaque to Stead in Central Park, New York, and no fewer than four in England, including those at Embleton and Darlington. Stead's editorial chair is preserved in the Northern Echo offices in Darlington, opposite which is the stone from Stead's house where he used to tether his horse and dogs. The inscription reads: 'The boulder is a fitting symbol of his indomitable strength and courage'.nondisclosed_email@example.com (graham 01)Wed, 14 Apr 2004 07:58:54 +0000