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hi Lights

You know I would not let a message go without answering on Bruce but sorry I am a bit non comital at the moment so make the most of it folks it wont last

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Lights, that is a great idea actually. You are definately correct in that there are not enough accounts if any of his side of the story, which i must say now i am intrigued by it.


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you know bruce was a pretty good sport about things that night...
i mean he did at least try to help with the loading of the boats. trying to pursuade as many passengers into the boats as possible..

so he was not all that bad. in that effect ..
however i have not had that much time to research him lately so i cannot judge him for the lack of 'his side of the story'.

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i think when it gets down to it the guy had a decent heart and his intentions toward everyone that night were in no sense negetive, besides i cant say that i wouldnt have gotten into the boat too if everyone else was taken care of. I think i would have been too scared to just stay on knowing i was about to get sucked under water.

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Hi Titanic angel06

You are correct as so is lights, there is not enough accounts from Ismay himself but then again he refused to talk to the press, He did however report twice to the press, Of which I think you both have copies.

When you think though it is common practise now as it was then that the companies does not make press statements unless forced. Ismay was in all but name the company, His fathers baby in respect so he was obliged to not talk to the press.

Unfortunately this led one person high up in the press who already had a great dislike of Ismay to say what he wanted and more importantly what the public wanted to hear.

As lights knows I am choosing words and statements very carefully here now.

Most people I speak to regarding the Ismay's come to the same conclusion when presented with more on him than in films and propaganda that he was a sole aboard. Not the owner or chairman or anything else but a sole. Treat with the dislike he became famous for.

I could go on and on but will reframe from that been there before. I will however always stand up for him as I know there is a lot more behind the man than has been said.

A coward he was not.

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Too true graham, after reading up on the material i had to discredit certain individuals as i saw a big vindeta between people and nothing more, its hard to print unbiased info on someone you have had a run in with no matter how perfessional you are. LIke i said before i am so glad you enlightened me on that one.

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Hi Titanicangel06

Thank you again and no problem, A biased attack is all he got but like I said in the previous post he could not say a lot unfortunatly

I will continue on this thread soon but at least you where good enough and sensible enough to read up and learn more.

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I was rather irritated with the way Ken Marschall played Ismay in GOTA - furtively slipping on board at the last minute, as if he knew he was doing wrong - I think the man looked around, saw no one else to put into the boat, saw the boat was lowering, shrugged and simply got in. No furtive sneaking, and no worrying about what others would say - no one else here, might as well get in there's an extra seat. Period.
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I have to agree with ttf on that one..I think strongly that if there was anyone else around that last seat would hve gone to just that person, but if there is noone else around and theres an empty seat on the boat why not jump on? I dont think there was any sneaking about it as ttf said...well said ttf!

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i agree with you all wholeheartedly.

ismay in the end [no matter what his stature was .] a human being who had just as much of a chance to live as everyone else did.

he was afterall a soul on board as well .
why should he not have taken his seat in a life boat. i also agree that when he did hop in there was nobody else around him.
if there was i think he would have tried his luck with the ocean as well.

when it all boils down and the dust has settled the whole purpose of that night was to save as many lives as possible no matter what!!!!

wills

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