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if the crew men working on the titiac and captain were not going as fast as they were.they would have hitten the ice berg. emoticon
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well considering no-one knows the actually events of the night in question i think it somewhat unfair to call the crewmen dumb. i mean they were all however doing their jobs.
it was however not a crime and actually it was quite common to drive the ships of those days as fast as they could through anything.
i believe that no matter how fast they were going they woudl have hit the iceberg or another berg. they were heading directly into an ice feild that was quite possibly un avoidable. from our side it is rather easy to judge but that doesnt make it right.
before anyone says anything unless all the facts are straight and on the table so to speak.
titanic was a tragedy so avoidable that it actually was unavoidable.
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We can only blame the fact that there were few life boats. If there was a place for every passenger, the casuality number would have been very little...I guess!

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titanica,
you are right there would have been more lives saved if there were more boats.

however as i have stated on other mb they had trouble getting the 20 off let alone
the total 64 she was equipped to carry.

as a matter of fact the last ones actually had to float off the deck.

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Wills, did you see my post "Giant life boats"?? Tell me what u think! emoticon

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Hi 86chvs

I feel a word of caution may be appropriate here.

First I find it hard to find your reasoning behind your remark of "Dumb crewmen", Like Wills points out correctly, they where doing there job. Most of them had been doing this job for years and knew the dangers.

The Titanic, was a Mail ship as well as a passenger liner, The whole idea of this is to get mail transported fast and safely. They had a licence that had to be renewed, and all Captains in that era and today have timetables to keep.

Captain Smith like all others who commanded vessels then knew the dangers of speed, but had to do it. The ship unlike parking a car has to get into port, and out of ort at certain times. To miss a tide means a ship is anchored out at sea till next tide. Plus it is only allowed certain length of time berthing. Therefore if it is late it is in port less time. Turnaround is very much precision timing for a ship.

No one on board the Titanic was dumb. and I am going to say this is a miss use of the word. Or hope it was.

Of course your own opinion may be this but I would try to explain why in more background than you did.

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again graham makes an excellent point.

8the crew were doing as they had been trained to do. most of the senior officers held extra masters cert. that is a great feat to accomplish.
most have also came from seafaring families. not just officers but regular crew as well.
captain smith had been at sea since 21. that was when he left the potteries in stoke-on-trent.
the crew can not be held completely accountable for the deaths most of the passengers were very confused and upset that night they like most of the crew were never atually told how bad the situtaion actually was . this was done to prevent panic among the passengers and crew.
the people were standing there as if they did not believe titanic could founder they did not want to get into lifeboats they thought they were safer on board titanic .
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Hi Wills

Good and excellent point about the cert.'s held. I had not thought about that till you bring it up.

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quote:

Graham 01 wrote:

Hi Wills

Good and excellent point about the cert.'s held. I had not thought about that till you bring it up.

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no problem graham
that is what i am here for as well to help. emoticon
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hi Wills

Very true and a great help you are to all:-)

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