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Oh yes Graham, I think that too. If it snapped completely, it would have stayed afloat......infact you just gave me an idea!!!!!!!!! emoticon

What if large ships are made of several detachable sections that can by someway or another (say with small rockets mechanism, like the ones used with the fighter ejection jets seats!) can be detached in cases of emergencies so that if part of a ship fills with water and becomes heavy, it does not dragg the other parts! I would say if the Titanic would have been made of three sections like those, Captain Smith would have ordered the crew to set free the bow saving the midle part and the Stern part (Aft)!! like in this pictute I just made!!

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HiTitanica

This is a great theory, and a good idea. But it adds a lot of problems. A ship is designed to float with ballast. Hence the draft of a ship is very important. This is to say that the depth of the ship when sitting in the water and how far the ship goes underwater.

If you take the front of the ship of then you adjust the buoyancy of the ship. Now if you look at it as a emergency then this is no problem, as long as the back half CAN float independently, Like I say a good theory.

You would also have the added problem of say joining them with points on the hull that where fragile or not as strong as the rest. In a bad sea, when the ship rears up and leaves the water smashing back down if the ship landed say for argument say, on the weaker join would it snap or break its back. ( in itself a cause for many disasters).

I know what you are getting at but I don't think a designer could come up with a design that shipping companies or insurance companies would risk on the high sea.

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PS Another great drawing though

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Yes, I see what you mean.

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you know titanic did have exspansion joints .
i don't think in the end that it really did any good.
as a matter of fact if you were to look at a pic of the wreck you can tell that they did seperate .

however if plausible your idea would be a good one.
however you do [like graham said ]have to consider every single situation you can get into at sea.
if it would be possible.
it most certainly would be something to see.

i don't think though that ships can actually be designed in such a way.
just a thought anyway.
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Hi guys
I know this is an old topic but as I am new I have been reading through them and I thought I would add my two pence worth although I don't know anything about the techenical side of ships.
I don't know about the Titanic but I did see on TV awhile back on one of those What Went Wrong kind of programs, about a tanker I think it was that broke in two and the back end floted past the front end, the captain thought at first it was another ship that had come to help them. So it might have been posible for the same in the case of the Titanic. emoticon

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Hi Carol

Ok you got me now, I seem to remember the ship you are talking about but cannot think of the name , Looks like I am going to be doing some reading now to find it.

Bt yes a ship can stay afloat technically in two halves. Like I said it causes buoyancy problems. But not impossible providing it is 1/ watertight and 2/ has buoyancy.

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ok now that is a first on me.
i new titanic most likely could have floated if she did break completely in half but i have never heard of the tanker you mentioned.
any idea what the name of it was?

interesting indeed.
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Hi Carol and Wills

I am still trying to find the name of this one.

I found a few that split in half but not this one yet

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yeah i have heard of other ships splitting.
however i have never heard of the stern floating past the bow. that is what threw me for a loop.
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Hi Wills

Got a feeling I did hear something like this just cannot think of it, I will try to find out in the next few days though it is interesting to say the least.

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