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What ever happened to Will Murdoch, & why didn't he...


I happened on to this while reading Richard Edkin's Dalbeattie Town History:

http://www.dalbeattie.com/titanic/tihbride.htm#newinfo

...and I'm asking, WHY didn't Will try swimming back to collapsable A, instead of lying motionless in the water? emoticon

Read it, and please do tell me what you think? OK!?
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murdochsaid1 wrote:

I happened on to this while reading Richard Edkin's Dalbeattie Town History:

http://www.dalbeattie.com/titanic/tihbride.htm#newinfo

...and I'm asking, WHY didn't Will try swimming back to collapsable A, instead of lying motionless in the water? emoticon

Read it, and please do tell me what you think? OK!?



hey ,
i have read that website and i do believe it to be a bit onesided. however to answer your question. i believe when he was speaking of will lying motionless in the water he was politely saying that he was dead. that would be a good reason that he wouldn't try for a lifeboat.

and on a more personal note ... i truely do not believe that william would have taken his eat in a lifeboat . i know in my mind that he was already dead when titanic hit that berg and that he never thought of himself after that.
wills



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wills wrote:

quote:

murdochsaid1 wrote:

I happened on to this while reading Richard Edkin's Dalbeattie Town History:

http://www.dalbeattie.com/titanic/tihbride.htm#newinfo

...and I'm asking, WHY didn't Will try swimming back to collapsable A, instead of lying motionless in the water? emoticon

Read it, and please do tell me what you think? OK!?



hey ,
i have read that website and i do believe it to be a bit onesided. however to answer your question. i believe when he was speaking of will lying motionless in the water he was politely saying that he was dead. that would be a good reason that he wouldn't try for a lifeboat.

and on a more personal note ... i truely do not believe that william would have taken his eat in a lifeboat . i know in my mind that he was already dead when titanic hit that berg and that he never thought of himself after that.
wills




But Lill, when you're washed-off a deck, you're not dead-yet. You try to swim to the nearest lifeboat, like Lightoller and the rest of them did. You just don't lie there in the water playing possum...you try to save your life.

So, Richard Edkins question remains...what happened to Will, between when he was affixing the Collapsible A lifeboat to the davit, and when he accidently was washed off-deck and landed-up in the water as Titanic's bow section began its final death flow/throw? That's exactly what Richard is trying to find out, so he can provide us with the answer, on his DTH site.

It was when the foreward funnel fell on him, that he may died from the blow. And that's when Harold Bride didn't see him anymore.

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ok tammy,
let me paint you a picture of what i believe happened. as far as what richard edkins is trying to say..

when will was last seen he was trying to launch collapsable a.[right?]
ok the theory goes. while trying to launch collapsable a he was hit from behind by a wave the came crashing over the railing . well if this is true and then lights saying he saw will in the water face down lying
motionless then my thought is that will was knocked out by the wave . most likely by hitting the boat face first. that is enough to cause serious damage not to mention killing someone.
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Try hit period, by whatever. That and that freezing cold water would do you in in a New York minute.
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Try hit period, by whatever. That and that freezing cold water would do you in in a New York minute.



you got that right ttf.
it clearly states that he was lying motionless which means he was knocked out not just washed over board.
wills

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Go on, true heart,
thou'lt reach the goal.


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Thanks to Lights, I now know the truth of how my darlin' Will died. Which is why I've been in tears most of the weekend.

Lill, put on your TITANIC VHS video or DVD, and there you'll see it being played out by Mr. Stewart. That's what I did. But he didn't fall overboard. He fell on the boatdeck face up with his beautiful hazel eyes open, only to be washed-off deck by that wave.
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Thanks to Lights, I now know the truth of how my darlin' Will died. Which is why I've been in tears most of the weekend.

Lill, put on your TITANIC VHS video or DVD, and there you'll see it being played out by Mr. Stewart. That's what I did. But he didn't fall overboard. He fell on the boatdeck face up with his beautiful hazel eyes open, only to be washed-off deck by that wave.



hey tammy,
i dont believe it and i will continue not to believe it untill the real man himself tells me face to face that he did it and proves it to me. anybody can say anything to cover anything up. no exceptions. i fwilliam did kill himself then that is his business and his alone.
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Go on, true heart,
thou'lt reach the goal.


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I hope I don't get all the Will Murdoch fans riled up by saying this...and MurdochsAid knows why I am saying this...but in my heart of hearts I believe that Will Murdoch did shoot himself. There is at least some evidence that that is what happened, and well, if it did happen it is more than understandable. No matter what, though, in MY book, Will Murdoch died a man and has nothing to apologise for!

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Well put lights, in my opinion only from what little i know of murdoch there is some evidence that suggests that he was the officer that shot himself that night, that is probably one of the most disputed topics of titanic is who shot himself? I think that there is no way to know for certain what actually transpired throughout that night as many of the eyewitnesses that night were in a state of shock and panic, but as said before we have no way of knowing, but any ideas that anyone has about that situation are always welcome as far as i am concerned. I have talked to people that believe that 6th officer Moddy was the one who shot himself. If murdoch did or didnt he is still a hero no matter what.

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