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Re: Recovered artifacts


quote:

Unsinkable wrote:

he was right. Before the 2004 Expedition, the Titanic archives contained descriptions of slightly over 6000 artifacts.

This is confirmed through court documents and news articles as well.



well i stand corrected .

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I sat down mysellf :-)

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And I wonder how many of those artifacts as tey call them are PERSONAL belongings I wonder.

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Wee, the shoes certainly - and, aprpos of nothing, I noticed Ballard was recovering shoes as well - he mentions it in the new book.

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Hmmmm interesting, then I supose if you cant beat them join them.

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Lee. could you copy the quote from Ballard's book where it states he recovers something during his expedition?

If he recovered anything, he is in violation of a Federal Judge's order. Only one entity is allowed to recover artifacts, and it isn't Ballard.

To answer an earlier question, there are ranges of answers for the definition of personal. If you mean items that can be specifically as belonging to someone, there have been many. There have been numerous bags recovered, such as those belonging to Marion Meanwell, Adolphe Saalfeld, and others to name two of them. They found a bag of items belonging to Thomas Brown as well. That's Edith Haisman's father. They have recovered a bowler (no not the sport, the hat) and I'm sure it was a personal possession of a passenger.

There is significant and valid debate about Ballard's claim that anytime we see two shoes together, it is the resting place of a Titanic passenger. Ballard theorizes that a body, as it came to rest on the bottom of the ocean and decompsed, would leave two shoes in a close proximity. He claims as evidence that if two shoes were dropped from any point above the wreck, the two shoes would land in different locations due to fluid resistance. These are valid points. The opposite side of the argument states that immediately as the passengers entered the water, they were exposed to the current and began to drift off site, whereas the ship, being of a significant larger mass, would drop in a strighter path. Therefore, the bodies (I don't mean that to be so impersonal) drifted off site before some of them began to sink.

The Birma came upon the drifting bodies the morning of the 15th miles away from the actual site of the sinking.

So the shoe discussion begins...
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Hey, shoes are the ONE thing I agree fully should be left alone.

Will check the book and get back to you.

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HI TTF

Correct me if I may be wrong but are talking Ballards new book?

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