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I am assuming we still do...

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That makes two of us then

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Hi TTf

IMHO I would say that the ship was actually held more or less together even though it did break at the surface, Ther is a lot of things like pipes gurders beams parts of the superframe etc acting as a sort of umbilical cord. So the split like I say although started at the surface and indeed broke the back at the surface maybe did not entirely split till later in the plummet down to the sea bed.

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If anything I would like to think the Keel itself contributed to this factor. I should also beleive the Titanic's two sections Bow and Stern were later separated as gravity acted upon the water filled bow, to pull it towards to Ocean floor, and boyancy acted upon the stern (carrying air pockets) at this point I should beleive the two sections separted permanently.



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interesting theroy you have there mr t.

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It Isn't a theory it's basic physics. The Titanic at the point of the breaking has reached a sinking angle that causes stress on the hull. Stress is experienced on the Grand Staircase location, a weak point in the structure. The steel was not designed to have coped with such pressure so the ship splits in two. At this point the keel is the stronger "backbone" of the ship, holding the stern and bow together. The bow, now full with water will clearly (giving credit to Gravity) make it's way to the ocean floor. However the stern carries air pockets, and has not been penetrated by the ocean. The remaining steel holding the two areas of the ship together snaps at the cause of these forces, the stern now held vertical - perpendicular to the water, as the bow falls straight to the bottom. The stern remains in it's position for a breif period of time, a matter of minutes before also sinking. Clear damage on the stern is a result of the air pockets it held while she foundered. That is how the keel contributes to the sinking, as well as how the ship would break over the water, and then be pulled under, only to allow the bow to rip loose, and the stern to bob for a few momments before following.

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As the stern section was sinking, Mr. T., didn't it do a complete turnaround, so that the stern; rudder & propellers, were facing the bow section's aft end?

Evidently, the stern section, itself, looks to be in a far worse condition than the bow [sign in to see URL] for the brass propellers, that can be plainly seen in Cameron's Discovery Channel documentary.

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MurdochsAid wrote:

As the stern section was sinking, Mr. T., didn't it do a complete turnaround, so that the stern; rudder & propellers, were facing the bow section's aft end?

Evedently, the stern section, itself, looks to be in a far worse condition than the bow [sign in to see URL] for the brass propellers, that can be plainly seen in Cameron's Discovery Channel documentary.

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No, sadly that statment is incorrect MA. I suppose I should provide you with a little more detail on what exactly happened to the stern. First, the stress on the hull causes the ship to split above water, between the third and fourth funnels, right down to the keel. The bow fills with water, and plunges into the ocean, completley out of veiw. The Stern and Bow are both still slightly connected by the strong steel of the keel. The bow at this point is being pulled to sink towards the ocean floor, while the stern remains afloat. The small piece of steel connecting them is not enought to hold the two sections at their current positions. The steel of the keel twists as the bow forces its way towards to ocean floor, and breaks loose of the stern. At this point the stern twists at a counterclockwise turn and is left perpendicular to the water (Propellers and Rudder facing the night sky). After a few momments the stern then sinks vertically into the ocean, when air pockets within it rupture. Decks are peeled at the decent and the stern slams flat onto the ocean floor with great force. Objects slide off her, the decks pankacaking ontop of eachother like an accordian effect - the hulls blown outwards. Afterwards downblast renteres the stern completley unregognisable (contributing to this action).

Now, I've explained the same idea three times.. So just read this over if you have a question before asking it please.

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Thanks, Mr. T. One of the better descriptions of this I have [sign in to see URL] and easy to understand! emoticon

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Thank You for the kind words Lights, glad to help! Now you can see how the Keel itself would hold the stern and bow sections together - rather than piping and such that snapped at the cause of the Titanic's steep sinking angle. emoticon

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True!

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