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Hi Teamtunafish

Re:Carter

Mr William E Carter, of Bryan Mawr, who with his family was saved from the wreck later confirmed Mr Ismays accounts.

The following applies>

"Mr Ismays statement is absolutely correct, There were no women on the deck when that boat was launched. We where the very last to leave the deck, and we entered the life-boat because there was no women to enter it. The deck was deserted when the boat was launched, And Mr Ismay and myself decided that we might as well enter the boat and pull away from the wreck. If he wants me, I assume he will write to me."

He went on to say:

"I can say nothing however, that has not already said. as our narratives are identical, the circumstances under which we where rescued from the Titanic were similar. We left the boat together and where picked up together, and further than that we where the very last to leave the deck."

"I am ready to go to Washington to testify to the truth of Mr Isamy's statement, and also to give my own account at any time I may be called up on if Mr Ismay writes to me asking that I give a detailed account of our rescue I will do so"

( Source US Senate subcommittee transcript; William E Carter's written affidavit to the US Senate subcommittee investigation)



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I still think the poor man got a raw deal.
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Hi

Which man are we talking about?

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Ismay, my dear.
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Hi Teamtuna fish

Ismay did get the raw deal all the way down the line

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yes i believe he did as well.
it affected his life forever.
as a matter of fact reports have said that once during a horse race a horse owned by B.Ismay.
they turned the prize over to the sec. place winner. they refused him his prize becuase they thought it was bruce ismay but in fact it turned out to be bower ismay bruce's younger brother.
so i guess you can see that it not only affected bruce but his family as well.
he refused to even speak of the titanic.
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Hi Wills

Unfortunately the article you mention here is true or believed to be true. It was reported pretty well when it happened and I am sure somewhere in my own archives I have the original report from the newspaper will try to drag it out.

The hate campaign did hit the whole family yes, And unfortunately still does today.

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So do any of you hold any of the officers on Californian's bridge responsible in any way? I certainly think that they could have shown a little more entreaty to their captain, making sure he realized they thought the situation was more serious than he seems to have perceived.
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Hi teamtunafish

It depends what part of the whole thing one believes. Of the top of my head I seem to remember Gills tried to persuade the officers on watch to investigate and awake the captain again. Would have to check on that though, there was also a second testimony which said more or less the same but can not remember who that was.

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quote:

teamtunafish wrote:

So do any of you hold any of the officers on Californian's bridge responsible in any way? I certainly think that they could have shown a little more entreaty to their captain, making sure he realized they thought the situation was more serious than he seems to have perceived.



well i believe that they should have at least had the wireless operater to turn back on his wireless aparatas.
i dont really think we can say much on that as far as if we blame anyone...
that is a very hard to place blame on one person or party .
i blame that cap.though because he chose to stay still .
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