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Hi ttf! emoticon You're entirely [sign in to see URL] Smith had to run to a much tighter schedule than Capt. Lord. In fact, one of the reasons for his being appointed to Titanic was his ability to "crack on"...maintain speed and heading in all sorts of weather. It was the accepted operating procdure that a ship was slowed down only when ice was sighted.

And Graham, you are absolutely right that it looks good, at least on paper, to slow down, but arriving late made one heckuva mess in port.

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Hi Lights

Untill after the Titanic sinking the speed was at the discretion of the ships master. It was only after that, that the slow down in ice became clear. I think.

And thank you TTF but I am not sure about the remark "if neither knows it" I know what I was getting at and it seems so did all others. But then again I am a bit touchy at the moment:-)

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True Graham, and it is still my belief that all of the assertions that the wreck could have been avoided are the result of [sign in to see URL] own included.

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Graham, what I meant was that both of you were going at a point that wan't being directly discussed, but was the underpinnning of what both of you were saying. My meaning was merely to bring this out into the light, nothing more.

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Oh, [sign in to see URL] sleepy Lights didn't understand. Sorry.

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hey all i have to say about this is they did not call him the storm king for nothing people...
lets face it i do believe he was pushing his crew especially the officers to get titnaic to new york. it makes more sence then you know . titanic beatting olympics record was a major priority probably not the top but pretty close.

the most common mistake that was made during the entire titanic hoopla is that the titanic was judged by the olympic. what olympic could do the titanic could do and most likely do it better hands down.

also with ej . he was very much known for pushing his ships and crew to their max. but make no mistake about it he was a great captain just at times a bit careless.

if he wasnt a great captain then the crew would not all want to sail with him.

that is my take on the matter.

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Hi Wills

What you say is perfectly true in essence.

I do believe the Titanic was been judged on the Olympic. It should also be said Smith I believe was only still in charge of WSL ships due to the fact he was the peoples favorite. WSL knew this and to move him or sack him would of been a disaster on the company.

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yes he was the favorite among not only the passengers but the crew as well.

he was a soft spoken man and he was liked very much for that. he was great with their children as well.

taking someon tour of the ship showinng them the ships wheel among other things.

but as to every story it does have a negative side as well.


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Hi Wills

Yes I agree with what you say here, From what I know of Smith he actually loved to take the crews children round and show them his ships. His repor with Passengers was fantastic and they all loved him.

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Well, for what it is worth, I agree with all of the forgoing. E.J. was indeed a very nice bloke and an able [sign in to see URL] least on the older ships. I sincerely believe that he simply ended up "out of his depth" with the Olympic-class ships.

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