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Oh okay, I'll do that now, thank you very much Mark. And yes, that is the correct email.

Edit: I have checked the email and do not see a reply for some odd reason. I am unsure why, however It would be helpful if you either PM me (It's empty now) or followed the provided link where the question is asked.

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I've PM-ed you, and re-sent the e-mail. Hopefully this will work. Right now, I'm getting a *very* early night.

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I received it and replied Mark, Thank You. I am going to expand in research on these details and hopefully deveolp some sort of conclusion.

Cordially,

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I am afraid it would be an academic question, as at the time Olympic retired, she was becoming an old ship, and operating costs would have been increasing.
I wonder what role having what by that time would have been a one of a kind engine arriangement would have had on the decision to retire?
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Hi compassrose6,

If you'll check the earlier posts on this thread, especially page 2, I've already addressed many of your questions.

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HI Mark,
I looked over the other posts, actually, my thought would be not just maintenance, but spares.
Both Titanic and Britannic were very young ships at the time of thier loss leaving Olympic the only survivor with the combination recip/ LP turbine arraingement, so I was just wondering what the supply outlook for spares would have been by 1935 since the projected need for the other ships had disappeared, and orders meant to build stocks over time may have been cancelled with the loss of the ships leaving Olympic with less of a supply than might have otherwise been the case.
It might have been a greater commitment in funds devoted to maintenance than Cunard was willing to make for a 24 year old ship with newer ones like the Queens on the horizon.
Actually, my background is aircraft maintenance for a freight airline, so I was curious about the maintainability aspect, since I deal with spares, and maintaining an adequate knowledge base, as well as the value of (as much as possible) standardizing the equipment.
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Hello,

I guess 'spares' is also a key point, it's one I had not given as much consideration to. I'm not sure the reciprocating/turbine arrangement would be much of a problem. Some other ships (I think the 1927 Laurentic) used it, but not on the same scale of course. During the 1932-33 refit, when some new parts were needed for the reciprocating engines, they were manufactured on demand.

In the end, I think you're right to point to the Queens. It's hindsight that makes it interesting, with the war, to me.

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HI Mark,
I think there were several things, if they intended to continue her service, it would have required an investment in a time when Cunard was having difficulty outfitting QM-1.
I think also that Cunard thought that her potential as a popular liner on the run would decrease after QM and QE entered service.
Had it been a bit later, she would have been valuable to the war effort as she was in the first war.
If I remember, was'nt Laurentic used as a prototype for the Olympic class engineering plant? (it was either Laurentic or Megantic, memory fails me too, alas)
I always appreciate your conversations and the points you raise- thanks for providing a lot of food for thought over the past several months-
I am finally going to read your Olympic Class book after I finish the one I am currently on about RCN corvettes.
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Hi Jim,

I agree with you to a point, but I tend to think it was much more a case of there being too many ships. To my mind, Berengaria needed more investment in the 1935 period because she had not been refitted or mechanically improved like Olympic in 1933. Seeing the figures for proposed expenditure in 1933-35, I think the perception of Olympic as a pre-war ship (with several years of pre-war service) is also important. Passenger accommodation for the major ships is a big topic on the side, of course...

I think Laurentic I was used as a prototype, although it's Laurentic II as a later vessel that followed the same arrangement.

Thanks for buying the book. I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for the kind words.

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