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Hi mollyee here

I was just thinking how funny it was that the Olympic was the frist ship built out of the three sister ships and the other two sank and she had a full life until she was broken up.

Anyway i will get on with the topic.
Why do you think the Olympic did not sink when her two sister ships did?

Also if anyone knows anywhere to get good and cheap books about the Olympic could you let me know or websites.
thank you.

Thats all for now
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Well my guess would be why she didn't sink was because she was better built. In that sence I mean she was the first so they spent more time on her than the others. They worked out a lot of diffenrent things and I also think that the renovations theys done on her after Titanic's sinking also played a part in it.

However to each his own. That is a good question though one that needs a bit of pondering over . Perhaps Mark would be able to help you there he wrote a book on Olympic . He would most likely be that choice to truely answer such a question.

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Hi,

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Why do you think the Olympic did not sink when her two sister ships did?



Quite simply: luck. She evaded numerous submarine and air attacks during the war, not to mention an attempt to blow her up by smuggling explosives onboard. When a torpedo did hit, it didn't explode: the damage was not discovered until she drydocked in 1919.

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Also if anyone knows anywhere to get good and cheap books about the Olympic could you let me know or websites.



Perhaps the best is Evan's site: [sign in to see URL] which has a book list.

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Hi Will,

I appreciate your kind words.

I respectfully disagree with some of what you have said as I wouldn't say Olympic was better built than her sisters; in truth she was finished more quickly than the others. Another point to consider is that any lessons learned during the construction process were applied to subsequent ships. If I remember rightly, for instance, hydraulic rivetting was used even more on Britannic. In that respect, you could say Olympic was in a sense a prototype -- and she served for nearly 25 years of arduous service, steaming close to two million miles.

There isn't really any truth in the question of her watertight subdivision. You're quite right to say it was improved, yet on Olympic it was not really tested. Britannic had hers improved from the start and sank due to extensive flooding; Olympic's was never seriously tested after 1913. The only instance was when a dud torpedo hit the ship's side and flooded the inner skin, saving a boiler room from flooding (which, even then, should have been survivable). In 1911, the new Olympic survived the Hawke collision with no problems. After the improved subdivision, had Olympic been damaged like Britannic there is every chance she would have foundered too.

I really think it's just luck. Mauretania, Aquitania and Olympic all survived attempted torpedo attacks during the war -- there's a chance all of these liners could have been lost had they been unlucky like Lusitania or Titanic.

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Olympic did not sink cause she was better built lol,she did not sink like the other two cause her damages was never has bad as the other two,and the Olympic was built to with stand the damages she occurred.

Aslo molley,I think it's werid that no one brought the Olympic before being [sign in to see URL] you immagine how rich you would be right now if you did buy her,I know what I would be being buying if I went back to the year 1935.

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quote:

Mark Chirnside wrote:

Hi Will,

I appreciate your kind words.

I respectfully disagree with some of what you have said as I wouldn't say Olympic was better built than her sisters; in truth she was finished more quickly than the others. Another point to consider is that any lessons learned during the construction process were applied to subsequent ships. If I remember rightly, for instance, hydraulic rivetting was used even more on Britannic. In that respect, you could say Olympic was in a sense a prototype -- and she served for nearly 25 years of arduous service, steaming close to two million miles.

There isn't really any truth in the question of her watertight subdivision. You're quite right to say it was improved, yet on Olympic it was not really tested. Britannic had hers improved from the start and sank due to extensive flooding; Olympic's was never seriously tested after 1913. The only instance was when a dud torpedo hit the ship's side and flooded the inner skin, saving a boiler room from flooding (which, even then, should have been survivable). In 1911, the new Olympic survived the Hawke collision with no problems. After the improved subdivision, had Olympic been damaged like Britannic there is every chance she would have foundered too.

I really think it's just luck. Mauretania, Aquitania and Olympic all survived attempted torpedo attacks during the war -- there's a chance all of these liners could have been lost had they been unlucky like Lusitania or Titanic.

Best wishes,

Mark.




Queen Mary also survived her collison with a German [sign in to see URL] well as experiencing an a la Poisidon Adventure scenario that nearly did her in.

I would say that next to Olly, Queen Mary is THE true 'Queen of the Ocean.'

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quote:

Tasha x wrote:

Olympic did not sink cause she was better built lol,she did not sink like the other two cause her damages was never has bad as the other two,and the Olympic was built to with stand the damages she occurred.

Aslo molley,I think it's werid that no one brought the Olympic before being [sign in to see URL] you immagine how rich you would be right now if you did buy her,I know what I would be being buying if I went back to the year 1935.



I totally agree with you there, [sign in to see URL]'t it had been wonderful if Olly too, like Queen Mary, been bought, and then to been turned into a floating hotel as well!? Huh!? emoticon

That would sooo cool to be able to spend the night onboard her, and to stay in one of her many First Class [sign in to see URL] as I did Queen Mary in Long Beach, CA, USA.

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After Olympic retired there was an idea to convert her into an hotel but sadly it was never to be.

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I think it's werid that no one brought the Olympic before being [sign in to see URL] you immagine how rich you would be right now if you did buy her,I know what I would be being buying if I went back to the year 1935.



In 1935 interest in Titanic was not the same as it was today. At the end of their career ships were broken up and all their parts recycled or sold. Although one of the greatest ships, when Olympic retired she was just another ship that was being broken up as she was no longer needed.

Olympic was still in good condition and could have served for longer but this was during the great depression, when money was short and profits low.

Olympic was not the only great ship to be scraped at the time Mauritania was broken up, Majestic (II) was originally sold for scrap, Berengaria was scraped a few years later and a large number of the White Star and other fleets were broken up at the time.

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