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yes i too think that it is sad that he did not take her out. that would have been nice to see.

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If ever a ship was made for a captain that ship was made for Rostron...

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yes i could not agree with you more.

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Hi!

Some comments from me on Olympic. I am very curious at some of the points raised on this thread.

Hi Wills!

You wrote, on March 27th 2004, at: [sign in to see URL]|offset=10:

>>i also heard that her [Olympic’s] wiring was badly outdated and it was gonna cost way too much to fix her and get her up to code. that as well was another contributing factor to her selling.<<

And, further down the thread where those words were written, I contributed a detailed post explaining why I believed those ‘facts’ to be untrue. In particular, as you know, my dispute is with regard to the ‘bad’ state of the wiring.

You also wrote, more recently in this thread:

>> her wiring was bad as well and the company at the time did not have the money to replace it so they sold her and scrapped her.<<

My curiosity extends to the ‘bad’ wiring mentioned again. I’m interested in this topic on Olympic, and would love to see any sources specifically documenting poor wiring. Is there any reason why you seem to feel that my analysis in the earlier thread is somehow redundant or wrong? I’d be happy to debate everything, time permitting, if anyone was interested. I’d also love to see a source, such as a book, where I could debate it with the author. Maybe we could both learn something.

I don’t mean to sound as if I am ‘having a go’ at anyone – I’m most certainly NOT. However, I do wonder why it is that – as has happened on another occasion when I’ve posted something – for whatever reason my words seem to be taken as irrelevant. You seem to have just dismissed my detailed posting, and I was just wondering why?

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Mark Chirnside is the only member of this board who's recognized as an expert in any topic. Why, then, are his posts ignored and why do they go unanswered?
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SchweigerU20 wrote:

Mark Chirnside is the only member of this board who's recognized as an expert in any topic. Why, then, are his posts ignored and why do they go unanswered?



excuse me but i certainly hope that this post was not directed toward me. i have answered him . oi apologized for my mistake indeed. it is uder the white star line forum . this same message has been posted in 2 different places so i answered one of them and only one.

as far as being an expert. that is a very intollerable jester. as you have never met any of us nor do you know what kind of knowledge we have about these ships and various other things so that comment was unfair . also who are you to say anything about anyone on this board. you are a member just like the rest of us.

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Yes, Wills, I agree with you. SchweigertU20, you do not know how many years we have put into the topic of Titanic. I can tell you that one member of this board has been researching Titanic and other ships for over 35 years [sign in to see URL], there may just be other experts around... emoticon

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excuse me but i certainly hope that this post was not directed toward me.

It wasn't directed to anyone in particular, but to the board in general. I saw a post from Mr. Chirnside asking why his posts were being ignored, and no one responded. I was curious why that was.

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have answered him . oi apologized for my mistake indeed. it is uder the white star line forum

OK; I see that now. I would have expected that response to be in this thread, since that's where he asked his question, but now I see that that wasn't the case and it was put somewhere else instead.

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as far as being an expert. that is a very intollerable jester.

Mark Chirnside is a recognized expert, who has already published numerous articles in various Titanic journals and has two books in publication and a third on the way. In fact, one of his books has been the subject of discussion in virtually every Titanic forum (including this one) today. Can any of the rest of us here produce anything close to that level of name-recognition?

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so, there may just be other experts around...

I never said there weren't. Please note that I did NOT question anyone else's level of expertise; I simply meant that he's the only member of this board generally recognized by the Titanic community as a whole as an expert in a particular field, the way, say, Phil Gowan, Ken Marschall, Ken Schultz, or Roy Mengot would be recognized. I have no doubt that members of the board have devoted a lot of study to Titanic and have varying fields of expertise and experience, but Mark Chirnside's in a different league than the rest of of us.

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thank you for your quick reply and for clearing a few things up.

i never saw the post for which you speak. however the questions he had asked i had been looking for in my numerous books.

i was not intentionally ignoring anyones post.

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Hi ScweigerU20

I have to agree fully in what Wills and others have posted here in this thread.

You say "Mark Chirnside is the only member of this board who's recognized as an expert in any topic."

Now I am sure George Behe who is also a member here is going to be real impressed as he has had three or four books hit the top selling lists on Titanic. So yes I think for one member that is a expert.

Other members here have also had books printed or in print. But does this make them a expert.?

We have a professional artist with us who has put many hours helping boards in the field of Titanic. And she is well educated to the point in the subject.

Yes I agree Mark is a expert in his field. I have, nor has anyone ever doubted that. And as for his posts going unanswered they are answered. And like Wills says she has posted it in a different thread where the question is asked twice.

I resent the fact that you seem to think there is only one person here of value. And that remark is going to hit a lot of our members deep. It has myself, And know it will offend many.

you go on in your next posts to say ."Mark Chirnside is a recognized expert, who has already published numerous articles in various Titanic journals " How many of our members do you want me to name. George Behe, look his name up in a google if you don't know him by the way and see what he has wrote in many articles and associations. Graham Pickles, Many articles for museums and associations. Lights, in the progress of a book, Tunafish, Many articles again, museum work I believe, lectures etc.

then you say. "one of his books has been the subject of discussion in virtually every Titanic forum (including this one) today. Can any of the rest of us here produce anything close to that level of name-recognition? " Yes read above unless you disagree of course. So mark has had two books eh, Sorry George beats that but I am sure as George or Mark would say they do not count scores like you apparently do.

I suggest you re read your mail as you did in a way question all here apart from the person you hold such high esteem for.

As for the other names, Well I for one disagree in some ways but that is for another day as I am not prepared to go into politics on boards and researchers who gain information by unjust and corrupt ways to gain themselves.

And so Mark is I a different league ok you believe it , I hope Mark is proud he is apparently well up there and apparently better than us all. You believe it if you wish I am sure most don't and do not want to. Including Mark himself.

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