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What you must r4emember is that Ada Murdoch, from all accounts was deeply in love with her [sign in to see URL] in love will often forgive a great [sign in to see URL] same goes for men in love. Also, being a seaman's wife and knowing their reputation, she may have chosen to merely overlook any indications that he was seeing another women... indeed he was...if[/i indeed he was, and I do stress "if".

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hello murdochsaid1.
just so you know this story you wrote has never been proven so we can not really say it is his great granddaughter.
i don not believe that he had any children with or without aid knowing it. i don't think he could even have children because if he wasnt on the ships out at sea he was on them getting them ready to go to sea. that [being an officer] takes up a lot of time .
it takes dedication as well something i know william had a lot of.
to say it is from his very own great grandaughter is wrong especially since it has not been proven.
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you know come to think of it does anyone have any pictures of this woman ?

maybe we can see if she has the 'murdoch' look. see if it runs in the family.
if she is kin to him directly then she would look a little bit like him at least.


hmmm

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wills wrote:

you know come to think of it does anyone have any pictures of this woman ?

maybe we can see if she has the 'murdoch' look. see if it runs in the family.
if she is kin to him directly then she would look a little bit like him at least.


hmmm

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The ears have it. She mentioned that her father had inherited that cute left lop-ear both Will & his granddad, Captain James Murdoch wear. Take a close look at my Honey's left ear. Isn't it cute or what!?emoticon



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yes tammy,
ihave seen his picture a million times or more.

however it was not williams photo i was questioning in the quoted post.

it was hers. and her fathers. i am open minded true however i do need proof.

i really do not think it possible for him to have had an affair on aid. i really dont think that because he cared a lot of what his father thought of him and if he knew william would know he would have been upset.

again i say that this is hardly any evidence to even worry about.
lots of people have different shaped ears that is what makes them unique. and also as far as murdochs go get on the dalbeattie website and check out how many are located just in that area alone.. it is unbelieveable.

also like i have pointed out before william murdochs were a very popular name back then.
a very common name.

i like william a lot not only because he is handsome and so on and so forth bu talso because of his sailing abilities. he was quite an exceptional sailor. and i would like to have spent time with him and have him show me some of what he knew.
he was a great man in every aspect however that is my opinion. .

anyway im rambling on....
i dont think that it is true and if it is just like in the suicide post i believe it is none of our business. if will did cheat on his wife hten they would had to have dealt with it in their own way.

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Hi Wills

I have to agree with you here, Proof is needed not just hear say, It is so easy to put things into the domain and watch as they run around gaining more depth as they go. Seen it happen many times before sometimes with extraordinary outcomes as am sure you have witness yourself.

As researchers we do need some sort of proof, A picture is a great way of seeing the resemblance, Bt like in another thread it was stated that Moody and Murdoch could pass for brothers, I had to agree there is a likeness but I also know as do all that there is no connection family wise.

I would be surprised to find he did have a affair but again like you say is it really our place to judge or post about such a thing when it is really a personal thing between him Aida and whoever. like you also say he would not want to upset his Father at al or indeed the family. That makes it an ever harder decision on him to think about it in the first place.

On ears there is a forensic expert in Holland who has found a way to identify any person by his ear. And is now used in a court today.

Both the names William and Murdoch where extremely common and still are today.

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Hi Wills

I have to agree with you here, Proof is needed not just hear say, It is so easy to put things into the domain and watch as they run around gaining more depth as they go. Seen it happen many times before sometimes with extraordinary outcomes as am sure you have witness yourself.

As researchers we do need some sort of proof, A picture is a great way of seeing the resemblance, Bt like in another thread it was stated that Moody and Murdoch could pass for brothers, I had to agree there is a likeness but I also know as do all that there is no connection family wise.

I would be surprised to find he did have a affair but again like you say is it really our place to judge or post about such a thing when it is really a personal thing between him Aida and whoever. like you also say he would not want to upset his Father at al or indeed the family. That makes it an ever harder decision on him to think about it in the first place.

On ears there is a forensic expert in Holland who has found a way to identify any person by his ear. And is now used in a court today.

Both the names William and Murdoch where extremely common and still are today.

Regards
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graham i too would be surprised to find he had an affair because he doesnt seem the type however it is really hard to say what his type is unless you are there talking with him himself...

as for the ear thingy... really? they can use stuff like that in court and it stands.
wow .

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HI Wills

Going off topic now but will come back as soon as this is done, A Dutch scientific examiner and scientist found that each ear is different, they all have marks similar to a finger print, He spent many years proving this to the officials.

He has now managed to safely convict many people through this evidence and it is now accepted in a court of law.

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wow that is definately something i did not know.

ok back on subject i dont think that will and aids marriage was perfect. not by a long shot but i do think that if they had problems is was nothing they didnt work out by themselves.

i never said i thought their marriage was perfect and i am sorry if i gave that impression however no marriage is perfect.
it is not meant to be perfect. it is a learning experience between two people.

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Hi Wills

On the ear yes it is quite impressive.

I don't think I said you did say that the marriage was perfect did I ? If so I apologise as I may of miss read something somewhere .

I agree though if they did have problems I am sure they sorted it out between themselves.

A marriage is a learning curve yes. All have there ups and down some more than others and some ending in a split. But Murdoch and Aida do seem to of been ok .

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