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Um Tammy I was not mean, I along with others was only pointing out how ridiculous you were sounding and this once "thing" you had turned into a obsession gone out of hand. You couldn't handle what people were telling to you (because frankly we all thoguht you'd lost your mind) and so you go and get "backup" from other boards, that didn't look good on your part. And when all she posted about was supporting you and your views and not on Kate (maybe did one or 2 posts on Kate) you AND her decided to leave.

The Kate board was NOT an appropriate place to place your obsessions about Murdoch and his inhabiting your body. And the quotes you put such as you watching Titanic and during the nude scene you felt "Will blush and get turned on" I'm sorry but that was HIGHLY uncalled for, on that board and on any board.

 Now I'm not going and preach to you about your outragous obsession with a man that you thinks inhabits your body, because it is a Titanic forum and you did sort of take it to where it belongs, but if half these people here saw what you posted on the Kate board and your [sign in to see URL] think they'd be concerned too.


Sorry Graham, I'm [sign in to see URL] had to get that out. emoticon I'll behave now.
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Hi Rosie

Like I said to Tammy thank you for been honest and open in explaining what the argument was about and why you feel the way you do.

I am not going to again argue with you or Tammy regarding this, The incident has passed and hopefully Tammy is going to put it behind her as far as the board goes. I understand how you feel and appreciate you also like Tammy has the choice to air it. I will allow the discussion to follow on from here in a respectable manner.

The Kate Winslet board is not this board nor is any other board in which arguments have occurred. Therefore I am not going to pass judgement on any comments made on them. I will discuss on this board any topic people want to talk about and I will give my honest opinion and answers. This will be given in the manner at which I would like the discussion to go.

We are trying to be a friendly board and I am allowing this post as I did Tammy's to clear the air. I do not want to be one sided so all the same conditions apply as they did earlier.

I trust you both when you say it is over now. And I expect to see some rather interesting posts here in the future.

Your apology as was Tammy's is appreciated and I know you both have good views to air.

I look forward to hearing some of the thoughts you both have and I will promise I will allow and also answer them, provided they are kept to order.

Thank you again for been straight

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Hi Tammy and Rosie

I do hope the lack of posting is not because either of you have decided not to bother.

I am trying to be fair not only to you both but the group as well I do not want to use heavy handed ways as I don't really feel it is necessary to do so. If either of you feel I have been unjust please let me know. All you have to do is send me a mail private if you prefer and I will sort it out.

Come on though the pair of you , I know you are both good posters and may differ a lot in some respects you both have a good and interesting line.

Hope to see you both posting again here and elsewhere around the board soon

Graham

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How about a neutral view here?
I just now stumbled on this thread and read it with [sign in to see URL], I am not experiencing a past life of someone on the Titanic--least I don't think so. But, I do find the phenomena fascinating--and take it seriously.
As crazy as it may seem, many people when 'pushed' can recall something of a so-called past life. I haven't the foggiest idea why, but 'tis true.
Whether one believes in the various 'explanations' or not--or WHAT they believe the reason for it is-- does not change the fact that there IS indeed that [sign in to see URL] many, many folks do in fact believe/feel it.
Tammy, I don't know you, but if you have these strong feelings, might I recommend some sites that you can join that do take it seriously and encourage serious (repeat; serious, not flakey) discussion and study about it. I would be most happy to.
Graham is very right; this phenomena, like so much of the paranormal, is not generally accepted by most [sign in to see URL] of whom actually get uncomfortable when such things are discussed. Perhaps unfairly, but such is life, and that must be understood and accepted.
I am on a fair number of history related forums (I'm a history junky), and believe it or not, several of them (very respected and academic ones too) actually have a section or thread devoted soley to this subject, just because of its prevelence.
Maybe someday it wouldn't be totally beyond the pale to do such here if there is the numbers to justify it.
Like so many things in this world, there is an awful lot we don't [sign in to see URL] before we start burning the witches we should at least listen and think a bit.
But by the same token, discretion is the better part of valor.
I'm neutral.
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I agree with 7th on that one. At the end of the day, to each is thier own. I find it facinating myself but like 7th officer, i remain neutral on it as a general rule, however, i do not feel that people should be publically ridiculed for what they do or do not believe in. This is the year 2004 and like it or not it is a growing interest among many. There are religions that promote the belief of reincarnation, scientist who are trying to prove it, very intelligent people doing [sign in to see URL] 7th said discretion is important and appropriateness is always an issue but the oppsing side needs to take the same approach. Sorry if anyone didnt want to hear that.

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Hi all

If I may can I address both the two last messages separately here in one post,

First 7th comes up with very valid points, He is been very honest and truthful in his remarks, Pats lives is a big issue and as such has at some time in life to be addressed. Weather you believe it or not seems to be the case in every argument. It is similar to the titanic threads on Lord or Murdoch, There is never a happy medium in these discussions. On the Lord case you are either pro or anti, same on Murdoch suicide pro or anti, there is or never seems to be a possible. Reincarnation is another such thread. I also notice 7th says he takes it seriously and is fascinated. It is also surprising that most people deep down do. It is just a case that many boards do not like it mentioning as trouble tends to erupt from it. I do not share that view. I do believe it can be talked about openly and without the usual arguments if people keep a open mind. Unfortunately again without naming names or anything other boards have there anti people on and make sure it turns into a slinging match eventually closing the thread down. Invariably with a warning to the person who has the open mind as well.

People do get un-comfy when this subject is brought up, In my experience the main reason for this is they are in fact frightened to make comment on it. They believe they are the only one who does believe in it and that they will be ganged up on for there belief. It is also a point to notice that it is one thing we will not know for certain unless we die. How many people do you know who can honestly say they are not afraid to die. I am not but what does bother me about it is the people I leave behind. The world carries on in the same way weather I am here or not. It is a strange thought and needs to be thought about alone and in private most of the time.

I also agree many history boards do have a thread for such a thing and I spoke sort of to Tom about it but we did not get far enough into the conversation to agree. My own board does have threads for it hidden at the moment due to it been changed around. It is also been renewed so it is closed.

I also agree there is a awful lot of things we do not understand about this world. The why does and why don'ts sort of thing. I do however believe that anyone has the right to talk about it and I for one will talk to anyone who wants to. Most or should say some here do know my belief in it and this is a professional one as well as a researched one. I do tell people if I believe them or disbelieve them. I will help anyone who asks for it or approaches me as a few can testify to it.

But yes 7th thank you for been honest and I for one appreciate what you say.

Now onto Angel,

Sorry titanic angel06 but that is too much to type so I use what is the easiest part.

You are also very correct in what you say, Like 7th you say that to each there own. This is so true. I also agree with you that people should not be publicly ridiculed on any part of this or anything. And I hope myself and the moderators can stop this happening now and in the future. I want people to be able to talk about what they want in a way and be open.

Yes the growing number of people who do believe is growing by the day it is now a business in itself some good some bad.

Reincarnation goes back way before the Egyptians, they brought it to the front of things though. A lot of religion is based on reincarnation. But I am not going into that. Scientists are doing masses of research into it and coming up with some very interesting points.

I agree with you both in the words of discretion. There is ways of putting points forward and there are ways of not putting them forward. and the opposite side does have to think before they say as well yes.

I was once in a big argument on this and the moderator of the group put out a web link for people to read and make there mind up on the subject. Bair in mind this is a guy who is supposed to keep the peace and show both sides of the coin in a argument. He pasted the link for the sceptic web site. This site is also anti reincarnation. I put a link out on a true scientific web site who has documented evidence that it may be and he deleted my post. He as you may guess was one of the ant boys.

That is not going to happen here I assure you.

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thankyou graham well said!!!!

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Hi Angel

Thank you I can go deeper but maybe better not.

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well i have had formal education on the subject( as i have taken a lot of psychology in college and they do cover that in modern psych) but your right better leave that one, for now anyway.

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>>That is not going to happen here I assure you.

Regards
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For that I am thankful. Thank you!

As I said, I am neutral, but if it turns out that there is some desire to discuss it (rationally only), I would be glad to see (and even moderate if need be) a small section devoted to the more, shall we say, less accepted lore of the Titanic--and I'm sure there must be some, although I have to admit I don't know of much (not even a good ghost story). Anyway, topics such as the past life phenomena could be entered there rather than here in the model ship section where I only stumbled on it myself (I'm not a modeler).
Of course this is only a proposal. It is obviously up to whether there is enough interest, pro or con, to float such a thing and more importantly whether Tom would care to do such a [sign in to see URL]'s obviously his call.
I'm sure as with all historical highpoints--especially involving trauma such as we discuss here--there is bound to be a corresponding lore of mystery to go with it--but is generally not spoken of in a more academic setting such as we promote here. I bet we might be surprised at some of the things that might emerge if it were 'allowed'. Besides it would keep it in one place too, and that might ease friction--the ants need not open it.
Just a [sign in to see URL] can certainly see both sides--but it seems it IS an issue.....

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