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I agree with that, wills emoticon

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thanks tom.
glad someone else understands that. it would be very wrong for them to do that. but people don't always do what is right.
if they want to bring titanic to us. let them do it with photos.
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ok i'll try to keep this short lol.

i have always thought of it this way.
think of being at dinner or something with your family and all of a sudden the door flies open and here are these people helping themselves to whatever they wanted while you and your family sat there and couldnt do anything about it. how would that make you feel.
it would suck. just because it is there doesnt mean that it is for the taking. yes the wreck should be preserved but in the end it is like any other wreck. it will all eventually be gone. what if your child had a favorite teddy bear and they took it. you never heard where they were taking it and you never see it again. but once for these people wasnt enough they had to come back 5 or 6 times . just rummaging through your things. taking whatever they wanted. then as far as the debri feild ... hey let's checkout your shed in the backyard. see how much lawn equipment they have that we can take. they can prserve titanic by photos . if those people are 'down' on titanic then maybe those things are all they have of their families and so on. i think and always will think it is wrong to take from them.
no matter what.
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Well said, Lill. I hadn't thought of it that way before, and you do present an interesting point here.

No, I would be like totally pi$$ed-off if anyone came into my house while I was eating, watching TV or on my PC, and they started taking my things without even asking. So the same thing iimplies to grave robbing too. Titanic's wreck and her debris field should be left alone, but the picture-taking thing is OK.

So, what do you suggest that the RMS Titanic, Inc. should do with all of the relics and artifacts they've salvaged from Titanic? emoticon

 
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hi tammy,
thank you. your are right it would pi$$$$$ you of if someone did that. unfortunately most people don't look at it like that. if they did they would have done like [sign in to see URL] did. pictures only. it is nice to see artifacts however couldn't they use the pictures to do reproductions of them instead of disturbing their rest on the bottom with their rightufll owners.
as far as what would i like them to do with it ? well whats done is done so donate it to the national geographic or smithasoneon. even if it is a tax rideoff. they should not have messed with it in the first place.
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hi tammy,
thank you. your are right it would pi$$$$$ you of if someone did that. unfortunately most people don't look at it like that. if they did they would have done like [sign in to see URL] did. pictures only. it is nice to see artifacts however couldn't they use the pictures to do reproductions of them instead of disturbing their rest on the bottom with their rightufll owners.
as far as what would i like them to do with it ? well whats done is done so donate it to the national geographic or smithasoneon. even if it is a tax rideoff. they should not have messed with it in the first place.
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And, how about also to the various Titanic historical societies, too?

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Most people here know my thoughts regarding the subject of artefacts.

I don't believe that any thing that is of a personal nature should be recovered.

A shipwreck site is a frame of time which has stopped living in the human world. A time capsule where only the soles of the people who went down with it know. When the site is robbed of it's worth the significance of the wreck is destroyed. and the time capsule is opened.

I can understand certain wrecks been of interest for it's historic fact. But what can we learn from bringing up the remains and artefacts from a great liner. The cups saucers etc. are no different to now in reality. What archaeological finds have we been amazed with from the retrieval from the wreck?

Why cannot people just let her and her soles rest like Ballard wanted and many others.

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i agree with you there grahm1. even ballard said he wished he had never gave her position away. all he wanted to do was take pictures of her and study them .
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Hi Wills

Sorry if I sounded bit bullish but it is one subject that I will not back down on.

I take it you have read the latest on the artefacts?

Now they are looking at selling them all off, I reckon they should simply return them to the owners, on the sea bed where they belong.

Lets face it Titanic has been obsessively prodded and poked, remains of soles disturbed,and to cap it all a fallacy of a wedding!!!. Where will it end. Time is now to stop and revert to Ballard.

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Two propellers were taken from the wreck of Lusitania a few years ago and sold for SCRAP! value.

One was melted down into golf clubs and the other was purchased by the Liverpool maritime museum. emoticon

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Hi Thomas

It is so appalling that this type of thing goes on, To melt down a artefact of this type is both criminal and vulgar.

I have seen the propeller at the Liverpool museum.

Unfortunately salvers of any kind are in it for the money, Weather small time divers or big concern's but I really think a new assessment of salver rights should be sort.

Problem is there is that the laws are s different in different countries.

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