The Foxes
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Ok here's my twopenneth. I have to say I can see both sides of the argument here, but mostly agree with what 7th officer is saying so won't repeat it.
I have seen a Titanic exhibition in which personal and non-personal relics were displayed, so from that point alone would be a hypocrite to disagree with the salvage that has occured. I found that I was able to connect with the awful tragedy more fully because of what I saw. In no way did I see it as an opportunity to gloat nor did I see the personal effects as just some old anonimous things that meant nothing, I saw them as a way of interacting with those who had gone and through their and the ships passing have given me an outlet for my spritual side and I am able to mourn for them and all those connected with the tragedy. It also gives greater support to helping me understand the dreams and aspirations that others experienced and to think about the consquences of having them smashed.
I guess in the end wether salvage is seen as right or not could come down to how each one of us deals with it and I have the greatest respect for those who have disagreed with it.
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May/25/2005, 2:52 am
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Teamtunafish
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However we know very well the 1912 era time frame of human development and those eye glasses, boots dishes and the personal items recovered from the Titanic do nothing to promote the understanding of 1912 human cilization.
Sorry, Captain, but you're wrong on this. The RMST exhibit slde show has a range of "unidentifieds" they carry around to ask experts about - something like 800 at last count. These are objects retrived from the wreck that no one knows a use for. Tracking these guys down is a new challenge that has opened doors on a new understanding of the private lives of passengers.
We do not pay an awful lot of attention to how we use day-to-day technology - one of the things about historical research is that such is rarely recorded. Also equally unrecorded is the daily routine of the poor classes - they're considered boring, and ignored. It is this information that we can learn from the obscurist of artifacts.
Just as an excercise, to prove my claim, can you tell me what a middle-class housewife in either Southampton or New York City would use as a shampoo? And what she would use to detangle her hair? If that's too hard, how about telling me what they used for shoe polish and how it was made.
There are things we have forgotten already from the Titanic era, and as the number of people who lived then is getting smaller, we will lose their knowledge. The only way to stem the tide is to jog their memories. Artifacts do that.
Oh, and sure, take the rings off my body. I'll be dead, and with any luck, will be buried sans eyes, heart, liver, and any other parts that can be salvaged to help a living human out.
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Jun/2/2005, 7:38 pm
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Ms Elle
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Yes! we should take the advantage that Titanic is still around for us to explore and learn from her remains.
Once she decaes and diarpears for ever,and we never took any objects from her,we will be regreting it.
But by us touching Titanic,she is decaeing much faster than not been touch,it's a catch 22.
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Aug/27/2009, 8:37 am
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MurdochsAid
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Out here in Arizona, I visited an Titanic Exhibition down and over in Phoenix.
There, we could touch a piece of Titanic, which was one of her rivets that was incased in a glass box, for which there was a hole for which to put our fingers down into.
So therefore--I can truthfully say that I got to touch her.
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Sep/2/2009, 2:23 pm
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Thomas Dyer
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I have touched wood that come from Titanic when she went down. It was recovered at the same time as the bodies and made into a picture frame.
As for should items be removed from the wreck I still think they should not but at the same time I would love to see what has been recovered and I can understand those who say that it’s better to recover rather than leave to disappear.
I would like more exploration of the wreck, inside and out, as long as there is not and damage caused to the ship.
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MurdochsAid
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I say, 'Amen to that, Tom!' 
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Sep/4/2009, 3:21 am
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Ms Elle
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Thomas Dyer wrote:
I have touched wood that come from Titanic when she went down. It was recovered at the same time as the bodies and made into a picture frame.
As for should items be removed from the wreck I still think they should not but at the same time I would love to see what has been recovered and I can understand those who say that it’s better to recover rather than leave to disappear.
I would like more exploration of the wreck, inside and out, as long as there is not and damage caused to the ship.
ThAT is so great yuo have touch a titanic piece.
Same here,I would loved a brand new in and out expolring of the Titanic,it would just excite me so much.
Also,you can buy Titanic coal! It's the only object you can buy that is related to the Titanic.
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Capt Smith
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As far as bringing up objects are concerned, I believe it should be OK to bring up objects that belonged to the White Star Line and they should then be placed in museums so people can see them, they should not be sold to make money from. As for personal objects belonging to passengers, they should be left were they are, photographed yes but brought up no.
As for further exploration of the ship then yes I am all for it as long as safety permits. Its such a shame that the stern section is in such poor shape, it makes exploration of that section far too dangerous even for robotic submersibles.
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