wills
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Hi,
Lights has been working some long hours so he doesn't really get on line much and post. however perhaps I can try to get him to tomorrow.
I tried talking to him this morning bu the had already turned in ..
Wills
--- Suicide is a permenant solution to a temporay problem........
Whatever obstacles control,
Go on, true heart,
thou'lt reach the goal.
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wills~~~~~
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MurdochsAid
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Great, Wills! It would interesting to learn what all Lights remembers about Miss Crogent. Since curiosity tends to kill a cat...it is my hope that even he might have been so intrigued with her and the reason behind her distraught outburst, and claim to being Will's mistress. He too loves the ladies...especially the ones in as deep distress, as she was. Even he would willing and patiently listen to her explanation behind her outburst...especially since it concerns his best shipmate.
-MA
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Oct/4/2006, 1:36 pm
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wills
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Hi,
I spoke with Lights today and told him about this discussion . He said as soon as he gets a chance he will join.
Will
--- Suicide is a permenant solution to a temporay problem........
Whatever obstacles control,
Go on, true heart,
thou'lt reach the goal.
http://com4.runboard.com/bthetitanicshack
wills~~~~~
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Oct/4/2006, 9:40 pm
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quote: wills wrote:
Hi,
I spoke with Lights today and told him about this discussion . He said as soon as he gets a chance he will join.
Will
Hi back atcha, Wills!
Thank you. Now this should "really get interesting.
-MA
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Oct/4/2006, 11:55 pm
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Lights
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Hi everyone. I dealt with a young lady while in New York, but I do not believe she was Elizabeth Crogent. Ms Crogent would likely have spoken with a Liverpool accent, or at the very least an English accent, and the lady in New York spoke with an east coast American accent, so I think we can safely rule out her having been Elizabeth Crogent.
WIlls is right about seamen--they do tend to get around, but I cannot imagine Will fathering a number of children and bailing out on his responsibility to them.
--- "What I remember about that night- what I will remember as long as I live- is the people crying out to each other as the stern began to plunge down. I heard people crying, 'I love you.'"
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Thank you, Lights. I've always stood in Will's corner, and I strongly believed in his innocence. Deep down in my heart, I know he's just too kind of a gentleman to even do that to a lady...when he would marry her first before having children. I also know that he loved his Aid dearly, and he never would cheat on her. Infact, they were "very" married to each other, which shows when he proudly shows off his wedding band she placed on his finger at St. Denys Church in Southampton, England, September 2nd, 1904.
William McMaster Murdoch was/is an honorable man, who does deserve our respect. He also made his intermediate family proud...and all his fellow shipmates loved him too. Didn't he?
-MA
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Hello everyone and nice to meet you.
I am an English relative of Victoria Farrell.
We have never met and my family are all from Liverpool, England and it is the common 'pass-me-down' truth, that First Officer, William Murdoch, was our gt gt gt grandfather.
My fathers, mothers mother was the daughter of William Murdoch - queeny. Dolly was her sister.
We were previously due to be interviewed by GMTV (popular morning television programme in the UK) in 1997 when the film came out and there was a lot of hype surrounding the myth that he commited suicide. Upon investigation it became apparant that William Murdoch is somewhat of a hero in his home town. Even having the local school named after him. The question was raised "do you shatter an illusion ro keep it to uphold its values?"
I personally do not feel that question is justified. William Murdoch, like most sailors of the day was stationed in the major port towns of Liverpool, Southampton or Belfast. Spending months even years away from his spouse would be enough to send any person in the direction of love elsewhere.
Dolly and Queeny (his daughters) had funds sent from America each month to pay for their eduction in the hope they would be English educated to a high standard and take those skills to America. Unfortunately War broke out and the money was used to feed the family. My understanding was it was approximately one guinea.
Scott Murdcoh, nephew - Williams nearest surviving direct descendant - refuted the very notion that his uncle fathered a family and merley thought we would make some claim to the several hundreds of thousands of pounds Golden Globe were forced to pay for defamation of character.
We would never lay claim to this. The family is also so vast we would only get a few pennies each
I lost contact with Victoria a couple of years ago but now we have found each other again and swapped contact details - i am hoping to help raise awareness of our story..and... with some luck... a family reunion!
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Good morning, I felt it appropriate to bump up the importance of this topic!
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Since a link to an earlier version of my 'Murdoch Mystery' website was posted in this forum I thought some might find it useful to know I have finally created a brand new website on First Officer William Murdoch.
The permanent address is: http://www.williammurdoch.net
Updated material is being uploaded over the new few weeks leading up to the centenary.
My ambition is that the website be the no.1 resource of research and information on Titanic's First Officer.
So any feedback, additions, corrections etc are greatly appreciated.
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I Live in William Murdoch/his Families home in Dalbeattie
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